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 what cigarette do people start out with?
to be honest, i have NO intention on starting. i feel cigarette smoke smells horrible and dont wanna pick up the habit. so again,what cigarette do most people start with. marlboro menthols, newport ...

 I have cancer, anything to do before I die?
i'm due in 1 and a half years
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I have a tumor in my brain and they are unable to get it out....

 Can I get paid to take care of my mom?
We live in Michigan and my mom has stage 4 breast cancer with mets to her brain, liver, adrenal glands, and bones. She has been getting worse and worse and she can't really do much anymore. She ...

 I last smoked pot over 30 days ago and just took a few hits. Can this be detected in a hair follicle test?

 How do you deal with the news that you have cancer?
I am 57 years old and I already have bad health, COPD, Diabetes and now I have been diagnosed with lung cancer and even though they say it is not in an advanced stage, surgery is not an option ...

 Do Clowns suffer from Jesticular cancer?

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Charlie: Yes I am and the Goverment aggree!...

 question about jades cancer?
i know this is gona sound a little bit stupid but ***** doctors given her a liver transplant and removed the other infected cancer parts instead of just saying its terminal? surely there was ...

 do u think there will ever be a cure for cancer?

 I Have Cancer, but I don't want to tell anyone, I feel alone?
Hi, I'm 18 and I have just been diagnosed with Thyroid Cancer,

My mom is the only person that knows, and I can't talk to her about it without her getting emotional. I have been ...

 How do you tell a 4year old boy that His Mother has breast cancer?

 I have pain in my breast, chest, upper back & neck but scared to go to to doctor and find out its cancer?

 Have you ever had a family member diagonse with a CANCER?
If so how did you cope with it and move on with your life and everything, or do you move on? just curious!...

 Why can't we cure cancer? At least one form of it?
Trillions of dollars have been raised/spent to fight cancer over the last..., 100 years, and with today's medical minds, you tell me that it is still killing people at an alarming rate. Is it ...

 Can men get breast cancer?

 I've been smoking for 2 months do i have cancer?
I started smoking in April, I smoked on a saturday and then two weeks later i smoked again. then another two weeks later i smoked again and then two days later again then again then i decided to quit....

 Recently I have found a knot in my breast that is visible (can see lump under skin). Should I worry. 24yrs old?
The area where the knot is seems to be darker than my other skin?
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I don't want to go to doc unless it might be serious....no insurance but I guess I will have to ...

 I am a grandad of 66 who has always looked after my grandaughter of 13?
my daughter is having a babby in febuary and wonts me to lookafter him I dont have a problem what do you think
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wot I said I dont have a problem looking after my ...

 what is a good gift for someone who just finished chemo & radiation?
my mom just finished chemo & radiation. we were taking her out to dinner & wanted to get her a gift. what would be a good gift? she is 59 & had breast cancer....

 Is there a certain kind of chemotherapy treatment that doesn't cause hair loss? If so, what is it called?

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Kevin L
why do cigarette smokers always look for excuses for why they can't quit?
nicotine is addictive right? thats the be-all end-all answer right? i disagree. I DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT NICOTINE IN THIS POST...ANYTHING can be addictive if you let it. i think quitting smoking is much like people who have 'depression' and other 'mental illnesses' that are nothing more than an excuse from a weak minded person.

smoking cigs is for followers, people who need to be cool because they aren't their own person. agree or disagree?
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ok, so far all have assumed i am a non-smoker. yes and no. i am a non-cigarette smoker. if ur gonna smoke, buy some damn green and get a high from it. i drink heavily, smoke other things, pop pills, etc...

i could quit any or all if i chose to, i REFUSE to believe that cigs are so much different from these other chemical substances that people, including myself, use. people just ***** about cigs cause they are legal, and people like to have something to whine about.

brenda l
I take it you have never smoked. It's intresting when non-smokers make their little comments about smokers. Smoking has nothing to do with mental Illness or depression. And I dont care If you dont want to hear about nicotine addiction, but this is why most people can't Quit
Do you have any bad habits you can't break? If so by your Questions that would make you weak minded, depressed, and mentally Ill.

It's because they know that they should quit and that it would be better for their health if they did but some people use it as an excuse to excape for the period of time they are smoking they can be whoever they want to be and where ever they want to be. Also some people use it as a stress reliver. The other side of the coin is that it is habbit, (not nicotine additive habbit) but just habit, you know when you wake up you have breakfast whether your hungry or not because it's habit, well some smokers have been smoking so long that the habit of smoking is so ingraiend that they don't know what they would do if they didn't smoke.

Hope this helps.

I don't think they continue smoking to be cool, but I think that is the reason most people start.. that or curiosity. I started smoking because my mother did.. and I wanted to know what all the fuss was about. People are always talking about how bad smoking is, but they were all doing it.. I wanted to know.. then.. I didn't want to stop. I have been smoking for 7 years. And I don't continue to because I'm "addicted" I continue too... believe it or not, because I like it. It makes me feel better. I'm not saying that I can't quit.. because if I wanted to , I could.. I'm saying that I don't want to quit. After 7 years, I have no ill health effects, I can still run like I could when I was a kid.. it doesn't affect my health at all ... and I like it. Perhaps when I start to get sick all the time, or can't run anymore.. or can't breath.. I will quit. But for now.. it's not a matter of can't .. it's a matter of don't want too.

And I don't like it when people tell me that I am a bad person just because I smoke. I volunteer, I have a good job, I am a good person, I donate to charity, I don't cheat, lie or steal.. so.. to all those people out there who think that you're a bad person if you smoke.. you can go ... you know where.

because the enjoy smokin perhaps?

Lots of smokers out there.

Whether or not you disagree regarding nicotine is entirely beside the point. I worked law enforcement as a psychiatric technician for 31 years. The theme I heard often from those trying to quit was "Getting off heroin was easier than trying to quit cigarettes." One of the reasons is that smoking is not illegal, and is associated with so many things. You eat, you smoke after. So it's both physically and psychologically addictive.

My own personal battle, I started in grade school when cigarettes were 23 cents a pack out of the machine, and quit when they were 90 cents a pack 20 years ago. Hardest thing I ever did in my life, I just laid the pack down and 'postponed' the next one. Seconds turned into minutes, minutes into hours, hours into days... Today I'm still just 'postponing'--but it worked for me.

And I disagree with your conclusion about not being their own person and/or needing to be cool. And let's not even get into your stupidity about depression and mental illness being just an excuse from weak minded persons. You've obviously never had to struggle with any mental illness. Or perhaps you have, and one of your symptoms is denial?

I am a cancer nurse and have treated patients with cancers directly related to smoking. Example 35 yr old female with 2 kids under 10. She died with lung cancer. A 50 yr old grandma of 3 who cannot breath without bipap She has smoked for 40 years and is gasping for every breath.
Yeah! They are thinking they are sooo Coool.
Your an idiot.
I disagree. You need to get out and see some reality. Apparently you are sheltered.

The term "health Nazi" comes to mind as I read your post. I'm actually in the wellness industry and one of our biggest problems in changing people's behavior is people like you...especially if they are in any power position over the smokers. Your total lack of empathy and even elitist view of breaking a bad habit creates huge obstacles to changing the culture.

I want to see people quit as much as (I assume) you do, but you have to understand the smoker (or whatever habit you want to discuss) before you can help them. You apparently have no understanding of the problem, so your opinion is frankly meaningless.

Per your later comment: That is the most convoluted justification for abusing drugs and alcohol I've ever seen...and I've seen alot. And the statement, "I could quit any or all if i chose to..." Ask every member of Alcoholics and Narcotics Anonymous how many times they said that to themselves before they finally hit rock bottom and HAD to quit...or die.

You need to do a little work on yourself before ranting on this forum.

3rd parties for REAL CHANGE
Totally disagree. Have you smoked and tried to quit? Once you have, then you will understand.

The answer to your first question is: "To get the smoking nazis off their backs."

I strongly disagree with your amateur assessment of addiction as simply being the excuse of a weak-minded person. Your dismissal of mental illness as being in the same category reminds me of Tom Cruise & his outlandish Scientology views.

Incidentally, I quit smoking about two months ago, and don't feel the need to go around ramming anti-smoking views down others' throats. Smokers already know that what they're doing is bad for them. They've heard it all before, and really don't need anyone's lectures. They'll quit if & when they are ready, and not when you decide it's time.

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Because cigarette smokers are not wanting to quit!

Do you smoke cigarettes? Because if you don't then you are basing an opinion on something that you know nothing about. I agree with you that nicotine isn't the main problem with cigarettes, as from personal experience the art of smoking is so enjoyable that it is hard to not want to do it. Growing up I always thought that smoking was deplorable, then somehow I started doing it and to be honest it really is hard to stop. I don't fiend for nicotine or need a patch or anything but I have to honestly say that I don't think that I will ever be able to fully give up smoking completely. It's rock and roll baby!

why does someone who drinks drink all the time i'm a smoker and buddy i don't have excuses when i get tired of smoking ill quit or if i get sick its my own fault. i get so tired of non smoker driving me crazy what ever you do today that you like to do like golf basketball video games what ever you think about some coming up to and saying you know that could kill you damnit a plane falling out of the sky could kill me too but i can't worried about it just chill dude everybody dies sometimes it a part of life face it

Maybe you should be more sensitive. Addiction is part of the cause. They may be trying to meet their needs through smoking that are not being met in other ways.

Smoking is sometimes a good way to socialize and have social contact. If you are out of cigarettes, what do you do? "Hey buddy, have you got a cigarette?" Then you might get to talking about other things.

It is also a relaxing behavior. Let someone get chewed out at work and watch the number of cigarettes they smoke. It can be like a comfort food or a security blanket.

Some use smoking as a form of escape. Look at the packaging and brand. The packaging and brand suggest a certain image. If you smoke Virginia Slims, you are supposed to be sassy and a bit of a rebel. Marlboro gives the image of rugged individualism and the old west. Newports have been marketed mostly to people of color.

Not only do the manufacturers produce brands that appeal to various people, but there are things about the cigarette itself that can yield to the psychological "benefits" of the product. Think about the diameter of a cigarette. Not to sound graphic here, but it is about the size of a female nipple. The filter part is often a skin color as well. Even the smoke is white, just like a mother's milk. So they are playing off of the association one has with their mother. Just as a mother is comforting, so is a cigarette.

Now, I think you should try to explore why what other people do to their own bodies is your concern and why it bothers you so much.

It's not particular to smoking. Lot of ppl wanting to give up a bad habit, but not really "wanting" have this problem. They don't think straight and excuse their way to an early grave.

First they start smoking. This affects their brain chemical balance. Then when they try to quit they find that the "rebalance" is painful. So they continue saying they're addicted. Sort of extremely funny coz they wouldn't be addicted on something bad for them if they didn't start in the first place.

I've no problems with bozos who smoke far away from me though. One guy less in the line at the checkout counter.

Briseis of Troy
Dont listen to any of these people. Quitting IS easy.

I smoked for several years when i was a bit younger.
(im 24). Honestly id doesnt take long to become addicted
however, people who try and fail over and over again
dont really want to. I quit simple as that. I had 2 attempts
The first time I allowed social pressure to consume me.
ALOT of people are "social" smokers. They continue
to smoke because theyre peers/coworkers/friends
all smoke. Sometimes its an image thing. For others
it is just an addiction.

All of these are excuses to continue doing it.
They really do not want to,and are not making
a valiant effort to stop. The second attempt
I did it, because i was determined. I didnt
let my friends stop me. ANd i didnt let
withdrawl cause me to cave in. I was
strong and I wasnt a wuss about it.

And do youknow how my "Smoker" friends
greeted this? HA! They ridiculed me! Made
fun of me! They would buy me my favorite
brand of cigs and light them and try to
get me to smoke them. Nice friends huh?

It came to the point where i had to
cut myself off from them. Quitting
was far more important to me,
than they were. They did not
respect me or my choice,thus
they where not TRUE friends.

That is the thing , people chose
to smoke it is a choice. The cigarette
isnt holding a friggin gun to your head!
It is simply not important enough for people.
They will be sorry when they get a heart
attack or cancer. But it will be too late for them.
Addiction is strong, but i didnt let it overtake me.
People let it, because they want to continue in
it. It is the best excuse!" I can't quit I'm addicted"
waaaah!! cry me a river.

I am proof , anyone can quit! no matter how
long they have smoked.

It's a lot easier than saying you're addicted. I think addiction goes a lot further than a personal choice - which might explain why so many can't get off the hook...

Its understandable you think that if you are a non smoker. The problem is simple really - they are drug addicts nicoteen being the drug of choice. Check out Allen Carr - v. interesting, opens your mind to what smoking really is about. After I read his book I stopped smoking no pangs, no attitude, and no sneaky puffs on the sly..

I believe it makes a person feel better about why they really cant stop,& the real reasond they cant stop is because they have no control over there brain.

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