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Kellie
Why do some people think abortion is okay?!?
I'm 15 years old and I was drugged at a party and raped by my exboyfriend. Unfortunately, I got pregnant from the rape as well. So many people have told me it would be okay in my situation to have an abortion, but I am confused as to why it is any different. Whether I chose to have to sex or not, that innocent little baby didn't do anything wrong and shouldn't be punished for something it had no control over. So many people think I'm crazy for keeping this child, but I can't even think about having an abortion. It's just not right! That kid deserves a chance at life and it would be so selfish of me to not give 9 months of my life up to give the child an opportunity to live and grow. I'm not sure whether or not I'll be giving him/her up for adoption because it is my child. It's a part of me and it deserves to be with it's real mom. I am financially stable enough to take care of it and I always wanted kids, not this early, but we learn to make due with what we get. Anyways that whole part was kind of pointless, but my question is why do people think abortion is alright, it's like murder! It's not humane.

Also, if someone kills a pregnant women they are charged with two counts of murder, so by law isn't abortion actually murder?
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I'm not trying to make everyone agree with me, i'm actually trying to hear the other side of the story because even some people in my family would like me to get an abortion and I would like to try to understand why but they won't tell me! And now I feel really awkward around them cause I don't feel like they care about an innocent baby!
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lauralyn
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Everyones' situation is different. CHOOSE what is best for you and the unborn child. YOUR decision....no-one elses.

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TruthHurtsGetOverIt
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People are saying they would understand. Some women would think if they looked at that child every day, they would be reminded of what happened to them.

It's every woman's decision.

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ROCKSTAR
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to tell you the truht i dont agree with abortion and i dont think anyone should it, i think if ppl sat and made the bed then they should take the punishment of what they did.... the baby hads nothing to do with their parents stupid mistakes so i agree with you... plz dont get an abortion your right the baby needs a chance in life ....just picture yourself you'll regret it forever TRUST ME.... just think what if your mom aborted you... do you really want to do that to somthing that is apart of you?

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noosa_stok_1978
Abortion is murder, an unborn child is not a tooth to be pulled at will. The only case where abortion is justified is when it is to save the mother's life. If a woman is raped and gets pregnant from it, she can always give the baby up for adoption.

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Laura B
People have different opinions on the issue. A lot of people, like me, feel that since a fetus has no consciousness or memory until a certain point, then before that point it is not a "person", just as someone with extensive brain damage who just stares at the ceiling and drools, and has no brain activity, is also not a "person". It's OK to pull the plug on them, and it's OK to remove a fetus, if the woman doesn't choose to be a parent. I for one would never have an abortion, unless my baby had genetic problems that would cause it to die anyway, or my life was in danger, or I was raped. But I don't make judgments on what other women choose to do with their own bodies.

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I love the bad guy. [JOKER]
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women should have the right to choose what they do with their bodies. it's a personal decision that nobody should make for you.

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mark m
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its your choice go with whatever you think is right same thing with every think else in life don't let other's morals govern yours

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Green is the new Black
This is a very tricky question, and everybody certainly has the right to their own opinion, and I'm not sure a forum like this would be enough to change your mind, unless you don't fully believe that abortion is wrong.

The reason I personally believe in abortion, is because scientifically they are just cells, it is not a baby, it has not taken any form resembling a human life and is just the same eggs we always have, merely mixed with sperm.

This is just my opinion, especially in the case of rape I believe you should have the choice to abort. Rape is a horrific violation of privacy, and you don't deserve to un wittingly have an unwanted baby. I don't think abortion should be taken lightly, however I do think it is something you have to right to choose.

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l.r
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ok i respect that you want to have this baby, but do you really think that at your age you can handle this. and i'm sorry to say this but making 14 an hour isn't going to help at all. do you have any idea how much baby cost. and i know that a lot of young girls believe this but you won't be able to stay in school, the baby is going to keep you up all night. i don't believe in abortions either and i respect that you don't want to kill an innocent baby but you also have to think about your life, your 15 years old you have so much more to do in your life then become a mother at this age.
even though i don't believe in abortions, i do believe in pro-choice no one has the right to tell what a women to do with her body, and i'm sorry but this is america not everyone is Catholic or Christin so just because the bible says it's wrong doesn't mean that you should tell women what to do.
i don't know if you would want to do this but why don't you put your baby up for adoption, you can even have an open adoption where you can see the child. think about that one. but whatever you do i respect and i hope everything goes well with you and your baby

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mayg85
Abortion is murder to me, but it depends who you ask. As far as someone who kills a pregnant woman, they can be charged twice if the baby was grown enough to be able to survive outside the womb (somewhere around 7 months.) I believe it's a lesser charge if the baby was younger.

I got pregnant when I was in college and it was unplanned. I was scared to death honestly but reading about how the baby already has a heartbeat at around 6 weeks proved to me that she was a living being and I couldn't kill her. She's almost 1 one now and it's been rough sometimes but I'm totally in love.

Good luck with your little one. He/she is going to be born not knowing if it was planned, not knowing if it was the product of rape, just needing love, warmth and to be taken care of.

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Hopeful For 2!
If you have an abortion you are stopping a heartbeat, THAT IS MURDER!!!!!

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nunya
First of all, the moment the egg is fertilized, the baby has been conceived. Fertilization is also called conception.
Second of all, nature and nurture both affect the baby's personality development. Yes, the father may be genetically predisposed to violence, but that does not necessarily mean the child will be, as well. So for you who are taking "sychology" classes, I suggest you take some PSYchology classes, and listen a little better this time.
Now then.. In answer to your question...
Because some people don't see the value of human life.
In your case, it's because they see this pregnancy as something that was forced upon you, rather than you were screwing around and ended up pregnant. Thus, they see this as not being your fault, and you shouldn't have to bear the consequences of the jerk's actions if you don't want to. It could also be because you're 15, and most people think you shouldn't be faced with this gigantic responsibility. In the end, it is your choice. And while you may be financially stable supporting just yourself, what about supporting two people? Can you be stable while doing that?
In the end, it is your choice, and I wish you the best, whatever you decide.
And finally, if someone kills a pregnant woman, they are only charged with one count of murder or manslaughter, whichever the circumstances warrant.

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mike1942f
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You should go with your beliefs. However, in many states killing of a pregnant woman is not defined as 2 deaths or 2 murders simply because to do so would get into the mess with abortion.
The Supreme Court, in ruling on abortion said that in the first trimester it is a woman's private right, in part because no one knows how to keep alive a first trimester fetus.
Catholics believe that a soul inhabits at conception and since that soul has not been baptized, the baby must be saved over the life of the woman, who presumably has. I have to ask why the Church has not managed to come up with an in-womb blessing on the unborn.
The historic reason is that a lot of babies died early in life.
Now that science has gotten even better at studying fetus development, we are learning some interesting/troubling facts: a large percentage of conceptions are twins and one of them dies and a large number of ordinary conceptions are lost in the first few weeks. If all of these conceptions have souls and are dying without blessing, what is position of the Church. More important in a society of laws - should women be placed under restriction and observation so that if activities such as drinking alcohol, smoking, taking drugs, and over-exercising are causing loss of conceptions, they might be prosecuted? In our current society would not find such observation acceptable (compare with Muslim sequestering of women.

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Lisa
People are trying to find ways to justify their own sins, really. You're right. I have a friend who's a single mother and pro-choice, but chose to keep her daughter because the thought of abortion just didn't seem right. I have another friend who was at an abortion clinic as a pregnant teenager and left because she felt she was forced there, and wasn't sure if she wanted to do it. The nurse told her, it's ok if you don't want to and she ran out! Thankfully, she didn't have it of course.
There is never a good reason to take a life. I even have a friend of mine with heart problems who gave birth to twins. She had many miscarriages beforehand (your body will do that if you're not healthy enough to have a baby!). It was a miracle she had healthy twins. And she's still alive.

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-Em(ily)
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I Totally Aqree With You!!
& I Think You've Made Very Good Points!
-if Only Everyone Thouqht Like Us
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....& Im Sorry For What Happened To You.

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Corrie T
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I am one who believes abortion is wrong atleast have the baby and send it too adoption! If you want to keep that baby you keep it hun!
dont listen to other people are they the ones carrying the baby no! your the boss of your little guy that baby has a future and having this baby will teach you responsibility. Take care now good luck!

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keepin' it real
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honey, you really think you're 15 years old and financially stable enough to take care of a child? i don't think you realize just how much babies cost.

if you want to have your child and keep it, then go ahead, it's up to you. just realize that you will have to grow up faster than usual in order to care for your child and set a good example for them. if you chose adoption, good for you, that's a really commendable thing to do.

either way, if you want to have your child, go ahead...it's your body, your decision. but please think about your child's future and if you will really be able to sacrifice your life to put them first...if you can't do that, please do not keep the baby, please give it up for adoption. babies are not accessories or toys, they are real, and if you have a baby, you will need to devote yourself to the baby for at least 18 years.

and abortion is not murder, in the early stages of pregnancy the fetus is just a mass of cells, it's not like it's a child with full limbs and a functioning brain. if you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. if other people want to have an abortion, that's not really your business.

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Mark4848
Some people don't class a foetus as a human being, just a potential one. Just because someone is pregnant does not guarantee they will have a successful birth. I guess I'm saying at the early stages there's no brain, just a potential one, so there's no person yet, see? You should listen to the Professional counsellors who see the big picture better than one so young.

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Stepha
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It's a moral OPINION!

And if someone kills a pregnant woman, that woman decided to keep her baby, so she was like you, and didn't want an abortion. That's why it's two counts.

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Dev
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You were violated and still made the choice to carry the baby to term. Hell of a tough call and I admire you for it


On the other hand, if another woman in the same position doesn't want to have her life shaped by the actions of a rapist and who wants to be able to control her own life decides to terminate the pregnancy I'm good there too.

Every woman deserves the right to choose her own fate rather than become a slave to a rapist.

Sorry to be so blunt but a blanket decision requiring all women to bring a baby to term regardless of their feelings in the matter, is an abomination. ESPECIALLY when there's rape and/or incest involved. Why inflict the horror the woman already went through on an "innocent baby?"

p.s. AWESOME troll! I almost feel unworthy to reply to such a masterpiece!

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Kt
because you shouldn't have to sacrifice your body and time for something that wasn't your fault.


And once people stop killing living innocent animals, then i'll give humans a chance. blah blah blah. Pro-lifers are annoying.

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Adrena
There are two sides of every question ... some people see the world or situations different then you do. Me im for abortion, i believe women have a right to choose to have a child or not. I believe if a women in a similar or the same situation as you should have a choice to get rid of the child and not have the bare the pain of what they been through. I have been in a similar situation as you option as younger and did not get pregnant. Also the fact that if abortion was not an option there would be more children being abused, raised in bad home, going hungry, and not having a home to go to. If i ever do get pregnant, yes i will have an abortion.... i believe that more people should adopt instead of being a child of their own into this world. I will adopt a baby or child if i ever want one.

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SIMON C
Firstly I am deeply sorry that someone you once loved, & may have loved you at one point did that to you. Without sounding patronizing, & I apologize if I do, you were a mere child yourself when this beast raped you.
I'm so glad you feel this way about YOUR unborn child, unfortunately not all woman can feel this way. Although as you rightly say the unborn child is innocent, many many woman who have gone through your own experience, will have a constant reminder of the terrible tragedy that was placed upon them, both physically & mentally.

I personally am a 27 year old male, have never agreed with abortions during what you would call "normal" situations, but I can empathise in certain situations ie: abuse/rape, knowing you are going to give birth to a child that will have no chance of a proper life due to disability. & please before everyone jumps on the bandwagon & says I just don't want any hassles then your wrong. I feel this way, because the last 21 years of 27, my Dad has been disabled, & I know that if ever it happened to me, I wouldn't want to live like that. I wouldn't want to be a burden on anyone or society.
Sorry if i've rambled on a bit, but hope my point came across.
The best of luck to you, & to your child.

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Leenie B
Not to totally avoid your original question, but nobody is financially stable at 15. You can't even drive yet! Your PARENTS may be financially stable, but i highly doubt you make enough money to live on your own (pay rent), pay car payments and/or buy a car, buy food, pay for gas, buy clothes and diapers and formula and all of the other things a baby needs. Until you can do all that, you're not financially stable, sorry.

Also, you make it sound like adoptive parents are somehow inferior. Just because the baby has your DNA doesn't mean you're going to necessarily be a better parent to it. If you choose to keep it, good for you. But don't ever underestimate the amount of love parents can feel for adopted parents. Many times adopted children are better off than if they were with their real parents.

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Lara M
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First of all, this isn't a question.
Second of all, that YOUR choice. Not everyone makes the same choices as you. I can tell you that at fifteen you are not financially or emotionally stable enough to have a child.
Make that decision for yourself, fine, but don't think you can go around trying to tell other women what they can and cannot do with THEIR bodies. You have no say.
I think it's better to terminate a pregnancy than to bring a child into this world that is not going to be given attention, love, or be taken care of.

You said you're fifteen years old. Is that counting the time you were in the womb? I doubt it. How is it murder if it doesn't count as being alive?

And if abortions were illegal then women would find other ways to terminate their pregnancies. Dangerous ways that can put the mother's life in danger as well.

Why don't you keep your opinions to yourself and let others do the same.

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margie k
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It isn't a "baby" for quite some time, which is why abortions are fine if they are done before 9 weeks of pregnancy. At that point you just have a collection of dividing cells, it doesn't resemble a person. Abortion is not wonderful but not everyone in the world feels like you do. And there will always be people who will want to terminate a pregnancy for whatever reason and should be able to have it done safely. Actually, it is better for some to abort rather than bring that child into the world and then abuse it, not everyone feels so magnanamous towards their rapist as you do. As a 15 year old you have a whole lot of living to do and learning, you will see when you actually have that baby. It's not a toy or doll and your life will change immensely. I wish you much luck, you'll see !! Your life as a teenager is over.

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Idiot kid
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Okay...who are you trying to convince? This is a place for questions and answers, not a place to shove your ideology down people's throats.

I'm sorry for what happened to you, but you need to let people make the decisions that are best for them.

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Cindy
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You're 15 and you're financially stable? You probably mean your parents are financially stable and are willing to take care of you and your baby. Not everyone is so fortunate. Not everyone wants to have the child of someone who raped them. Keep in mind that during most abortions, the tissue that is removed is smaller than your fingernail and bears very little resemblance to a baby. Abortion is legal because most people believe that no woman should be forced to have a baby. That doesn't mean you can't. Aren't you glad the choice is up to you, rather than having some old men a thousand miles away deciding for you?

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Sweetness
Everyone has their own opinion about this subject...clearly you are against abortions....and that is perfectly fine. You do what makes you feel comfortable. Other people like to exercise their right to choose. You should not worry about what other people think or feel about the situation ( abortions) and just do what feels right to you. It is all about having the choice to do whatever you want..........OH AND HOW ARE YOU FINANCIALLY STABLE AT 15????????PLEASE EXPLAIN

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kohlkeizuh
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I understand your point about the Nanny situation and your Mommy and Daddy helping out but your child needs YOU! If you are going to have a child, you can't do school & work at the same time, you can't go out with your friends all the time, date boys and so on. My sister has a babysitter and spends a lot of time with her kids, but her kids call the babysitter "Mommy" because she is more of a mother to them than my sister. Day care, nannies, parent's watching your kids, babysitters - that is not parenting, that is letting someone else* parent your children. Just make sure you have done EVERYTHING you wanted to do in life before you are willing to give it up. That includes done with MEN, because it will be very* difficult for you to have a guy interested in anything besides sex for a 15 yr old mother. Movies and so on aren't even* close to the reality of it all. Are you prepared to deal with poopy diapers, barely any time for you to sleep, barely any time for yourself (alone time - getting ready to go somewhere etc.), screams, crying, money money money - then go for it. Just spend some good time saying goodbye to the girl in the mirror because your body physically and mentally will be changed FOREVER. I know there are sad cases of abortion but I have seen/heard/witnessed waaay more sad cases of child abuse, neglect, molested (raped even!) and most horribly - deaths.

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♥michele♥
Another woman's choice to do that, doesn't affect you. I would rather a girl have an abortion than to take it to term and leave the baby in a dumpster.

They are probably trying to persuade you to get the abortion because they know they will be the ones who are raising the child while you are finishing school.

Another note - you have to take care of YOU first. If you can't take care of YOU (and your hapiness), you can't take care of anyone else.

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