How can i recover from severe chronic clinical depression? help, i wish i might die?

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ɐdɾ soɐɥɔ ǝnlqblue chaos jpa	Oh, honey. I know you do not want to use meds, but I think that might be best. I used to be in the same boat. Then I went to see a psychiatrist. Things started to seem better after a while. I wish you only the best. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

sapphireoceans	I don't have an answer for you, I'm sorry.. I just wanted to say hang in there.. and I hope you get some help soon x Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

shaneris2	My standard post follows, but, if you are young, antidepressants are unsuitable for young people. See depression treatments, at ezy build, below, in section 2, (much more detailed) or the Myspace blog of shaneris, and consult a doctor, to eliminate Thyroid problems, etc. as possible contributing factors: also seek a referral to a therapist using Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, or Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy. It is your decision, and yours alone, as to whether to take any antidepressants offered, but, before you do, read section 1, and check medications out at www.drugs.com so you will be on the lookout for side effects, like sexual dysfunction. My strong recommendation, however, is to follow the advice of my doctor, his associate, and Nathanial S. Lehrmann, MD, Marcelle Pick, OB/GYN NP, and Dr. Mercola, at www.mercola.com and many others: avoid antidepressants (pages 2V, and 2Z refer, & antidepressant websites: page 2). The reasons why we all share the same view on this are explained in full, as you will find, if you read it, and section 1. All of their advice, (except prayer, because many people are not religious) I have incorporated into the "core treatments" of the multidimensional approach to treating depression, including occupational therapy, relaxation techniques, and exercise, with others as options, such as the supplements: Inositol, or SAMe, or herbal remedies, like St. John's wort. If you are diagnosed with clinical (major) depression, antidepressants may be necessary for a while, which will give the treatments time to become effective. The antidepressants themselves need at least several days, or even weeks to begin becoming effective. It's a good idea to taper off them slowly, with medical advice, after several months, say, to a couple of years, at most, because they are only effective in the long term for about 30% of people. Because of this, you would be well advised to begin the treatments immediately, and maintain them. I'd just thank your mental health care provider, and pocket the prescription, trying the treatments for a few months, to see if they are sufficient for you, before considering filling it (unless clinically depressed, and having great difficulty functioning, or suicidal, in which case I'd take them). If the amount of daylight you have been exposed to recently has reduced, perhaps due to the change of seasons, see Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D.) in section 2, at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris and, instead of taking 4 Omega-3 fish oil supplements, daily; replace 2 of them with Cod Liver Oil supplements for the winter months only! (or, as probably a better alternative to the 2 Cod Liver Oil supplements: 1 teaspoonful of Cod Liver Oil, with a little butter, to ensure its use; I take mine on sourdough rye bread, or toast, covered with fishpaste, and pepper, to mask the strong taste). Consider having your doctor test your Vitamin D levels, using the 25 Hydroxyvitamin D test. Optimal levels are 50 - 55 ng/ml (115 - 125 nmol / L. It should be above 32 ng/ml. Those people who receive adequate exposure to sunlight, daily, won't need the Vitamin D from Cod Liver Oil, but many people, particularly those in latitudes far from the equator, find this difficult, to achieve. ~~~ Drink some water, and eat something nutritious. Your brain, and body need a good diet, to perform properly. BASIC HEALTHY DIET: A healthy diet consists of: 5 serves of vegetables, daily, including a leafy green one, such as broccoli, spinach, Cabbage, kale, or silverbeet (swiss chard), and a yellow/orange one, like yams, (sweet potato) carrots, or pumpkin/squash. One of the other serves should be legumes, such as beans, peas, or lentils. A serve is 2 heaped tablespoonsful, or half a cup (125 ml). Also 3 - 5 serves of fruit: one should be orange, or grapefruit, for the vitamin C, and bananas are high in Potassium. In addition, your body needs at least 2 teaspoonsful of oil. Olive oil, coconut oil, grapeseed oil, or macadamia oil, are the healthiest, but you can get some in the form of Omega-3 fish oil, mentioned below. Also a serve of protein: meat, fish, poultry, or eggs. For Calcium, some yog(h)urt, and/or cheese and/or milk, or tinned sardines, with bones. ~~~ If you are incapable of taking proper care of yourself, at the moment, call the emergency number: phone 911 in the U.S.A., 999 in the U.K., or 000 in Australia. Otherwise, have something quick, and easy, like soup, now. Although you don't have much energy whwn depressed, sleeping all day will not help, so force yourself to stay awake: shower, or splash your face with cold water. Sleep only at night, for 8 hrs, MAX!!! Get some Omega-3 fish oil supplements. Drink 2 - 4 cups of Green Tea daily. Eat healthily, in accordance with your "nutritional type" as determined at http://www.mercola.com/ SEARCHBAR. http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris As with all herbal/green teas, lemon, or a little sweetener (NOT ARTIFICIAL!!!) but no cream, or milk. Xylitol is preferable, (health food stores) or fruit sugar (fructose, such as "Fruisana", from supermarket sugar aisles) or even a little honey, because these will reduce "sugar spikes", which later deplete you of energy. Minimise/eliminate consumption of highly processed foods, particularly grain products, such as white bread, donuts, cake, cookies/biscuits, or anything with sugar. Opt for more wholefoods, non-starchy vegetables, and fruit. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

AdoreHim	You need to talk to someone at a suicide hotline- and you have to force yourself to get some help- there is nothing wrong with taking meds for chronic clinical depression- God will help you get past this, however you have to take a step in his direction and also allow Him to use docs to help you. Life is far too precious when you can get some help for yourself- do you have anyone close to you to help you? Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Michellekate	It is difficult to come out of a depression, makes things seem impossible and not worth it, espically when you have such little energy. The more positive you are about things the better you will feel but getting into that mind set can be hard without anyone around to help you. If u have any friends around that will come over to visit you or get you out of the house even just to go for a walk up the street and back can help with your energy and mood. One thing you will probally need to stop doing is drinking alochol if u still do, otherwise that could be another factor messing things around. do your best not to sleep so many hourse becasue that just makes you more fatigued - i still sleep heaps aswell tho. sometimes you think the best place to be is bed, but it's really not. do something that will make you feel better about who you are as a person... learn an instrument, do soemthing your good at... paint, play a sport... sport is the best thing for depression gets the endorphines moving. need anymore help just give me a yell Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Vickie M	If you don't want meds or doctor/hospital intervention...then, I guess that you have to make yourself get up...of course after being in the supine position for so many hours...you're gonna feel like crap. I know that you must want to feel better...please go see a doctor or call a hotline or something. Your life is precious. You must search to find joy in your life....surely there was a time that either you had joy or looked forward to joy. Please....get out of bed, get your body and your mind healthy and peace be with you. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Kandy S	I know this sounds really simple, but sometimes it is not that easy. Focus on your breathe. Let every thought you have come in and then float out of your mind, don't hold onto anything. Just be in the moment, don't think about the future or the past, just be aware of how you are feeling in the moment, feel the clothes touching your skin, for a moment focus on the colors around you or the sounds/smells in your room. Don't let anything stay in your head, just let it come in and then float out because none of it is permanent. It is here in this moment and then it is gone in a hour/day/year/decade/century. The only permanent thing is impermanence, enjoy every moment while you are here. Change your mind and you will change the world. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Herodotus	Some of my family and several friends have clinical depression. their lives where hell without the drugs. You might have to try more than one, or a mix. You can get help through the United Way's Family Services for little or no money and with privacy. If it is clinical depression, then you probably can just beat it with hard work and dedication. Talk to a professional. Try the drugs if he suggests it. Good luck either way, H. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

chopzsite	get your alarm clock and set it after 8 hours when u sleep. then you'll feel a bit better and not overly tired. splash your face with hot water (yes, this kind of pain works best in the morning to wake you up), that'll get your day going from the tired face. when that happens, you can at least get up and rummage through the kitchen for something, even crackers can help, anything to fill your stomach. then, when you're satisfied enough, you can go online, and check this board again, and see people's answers and their solutions. most people here are suggesting you to take meds and/or see a doctor. My suggestion are books, drawing, writing, watching a movie (on the pc/dvd/tv, even if you watched it already, watch it again). Pour out all of your emotional distress onto paper, even recording yourself on tape and just listening to how you feel, if you don't want to talk, that's fine, it's even better to rage out on the paper with pencils and pencil crayons and even if the picture doesn't make sense, your emotions will be flooding out of your mind and makes you more ease. Since you're a guy, you tend to not find professional help and want to do be able to do something for yourself, and you can express your misery into anger. Punch your pillow, cry hysterically, scream and jump around and maybe punch the wall if it makes you feel better (nothing living, please). Maybe talking to a friend is good, but if you don't feel that you may have someone close to you, even to an anonymous person is good enough... call: 1-800-999-9999 national crisis hotline (better than seeing a doctor for you, right?) I'm just trying to respect to your wishes and find other useful ways that might be resourceful to you. Just try to do these things in the day time, the light from the sun will provide you with more energy than at night. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Mom-of-2	I don't know why you say you won't or can't take meds, but that will help you, you need help, you need to go see a dr. and they will put you on medication that will help you. I have been there too. Do it, you can do it. It's your life, you only get one chance at it, take it!!! It will get better. Take it one little step at a time. Even though don't have the energy, do something, anything, and then you will want to do something else. Get up, take a shower, get on the phone and go!!! Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Benjamin H	I went through something similar to that, it only laster a few days, but man, it stunk. I was fortunate enough to just phase out of it, and no one really noticed, just thought I was tired. I'm not a doctor, so I can't give you any advice, though I just ate even though I really didn't feel like it. I didn't gorge, but I snacked and drank water. I guess that helped me. I think you've got something worse than I did though. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

soccer_gal27	hey, if you need to talk you can e-mail me. don't take your life, give life another chance. and if you need a friend you got me and Jesus will always be there for you. I'll be praying for you.<>< Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

knicname	You must get some help. National Suicide Hotline: 1-800-784-2433 Excessive sleeping can leave you more tired & fatigued. See a professional social worker or psychologist to talk about the underlying issues for your misery. The sessions are confidential. It will require some work on your part...you have to get to your sessions. If you have a plan & access to the means you need to at least call the hotline...it's confidential. Suicide is the only decision in life you can't change. All other decisions are changeable & have options. If you haven't tried everything yet...you're not ready to hurt yourself...and I doubt if you have. Just keep going... I have the feeling you've had bad experiences with the mental health profession. Otherwise why would you be so adamant about no MDs, no meds & why bring up hospitals? Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

RAPTOR	Dude, you HAVE to see a doctor, and you HAVE to get on meds. Your case sounds serious. Would you rather be dead? I'm gonna guess no, because you're here asking for help, but NO ONE on this board is adequately qualified to diagnose you, or give you substantial advice. Please go get some proffesional advice, pal. Make the right decision. I'll be rooting for you. Feel better soon. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

New Child Of GOD	Everyone has someone they care about. someone they will do anything for. think of that person. keep thinking of them. that will i hope take some pressure off you at this time. Everyday try to stay up 5 minutes longer then the last one. then the next day try to stay up 5 minutes longer. then you can get a little stronger. ask some friends over to talk to you. and encourage you. and Pray for you and just take care of you. You have taken a giant step here by asking for help. that's a big step. if you want to talk you can email me. and i will listen to you. I was very depressed a few weeks ago and I wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for Ken from Shattered Men. PLEASE don't give up your life is a gift don't hurt God He LOVES YOU. I am here if you want to talk. I will keep you in my Prayers Take Care and stay strong YOU can win this battle I Believe in YOU. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

markyyy - NHP	No idea what to say, except that you really, really should go and see a doctor. Or at least call one and have them come to you. I gave it a star, maybe one of my contacts will have a better tip. But please, call a doctor. Even a doctor can give you better tips than all of us here can. I wish you strength, and good luck. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Clare P	I would suggest you speak to professional people such as a helpline if you do not want to go to a doctor or hospital. Depression as bad as yours needs to be addressed immediately. Sorry, but I do think you need to realise you need proper help to help you out of this serious illness. I hope you do this today rather than leave it any longer for your own sake. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Yenta	It's good that you are asking for help. I can sure understand saying "they say think positively"... I've been told that too; but hey, that's what clinical depression is: the inability to think positively. You might have more than one kind of depression, or more than one cause. & yes, there are things you can do to help yourself, without meds & without a dr. Sunshine ! yes, sunlight helps. It actually does help depression, especially Seasonal Affective Depresion. You can order a lightbox or lamp online; get the kind that has full-Spectrum light & is intended for light therapy -- not just for reading. while you wait for it to arrive, go outdoors at least twice every morning: morning sunlight is more helpful than afternoon light. Emotions require energy. So, you do need food. SInce you haven't been eating, begin gently: choose foods that are easy to digest. even if the amount is small, be sure to eat a variety: fruits, veggies, protein. It's even okay to just live on liquids for a while, if you are wise about which ones: V-8 juice, milk, eggnogs, protein shakes, fruit smoothies, soup broth. Also: there are over-the-counter herbal helps, such as St. John's-Wort, the B-vitamins, and Calcium. If you have a Vitamin D deficiency, you'll have zero energy. take 600-1200MG of D a day. DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL. not one drop ! alcohol is a depressant; it leaves a person worse off. the resihi mushroom has amazing energy-boosting capacity; it gives energy without the jitters caffeine gives. Get a good-quality Reishi supplement or tea, as fast as you can. Also, if you have a parasite you'll have no energy; & yes, you can catch those buggers easily, even if you're careful. If you're lucky, it'll be a common parasite called Giardia Lamblia (sp?); it can be eliminated easily with msm (methyl-sulfanyl-methane), which is the organic form of sulfur. Tastes awful, but it works. every five minutes, say aloud somethng that is good about you or your surroundings.I mean it: set a timer, and when it rings, say something that is good and that is true. Even if it's the same thing you said five minutes ago: say it again. Our words are influential, & they even influence us, ourtselves, when we say them aloud. It can be as small as: "the fly on the window isn't pestering me right now." or, "the color of the paint in this rom is okay." keep it up. After a while you'll be able to notice other good things, like "nobody frowned at me yet today", or "I like being in the sunshine." Neu-Becalmed is an over-the-counter natural food supplement I order regularly. It contains vitamins & Tryptophan. It's helped me reduce my need for medicine. ask at a good-quality herbal/health food store, they can suggest other herbs that may help you. Some will help with mood, others with energy level . And: don't wait to "feel like it" or to "feel up to it". Just DO IT. Take care of your body. Check things off on a list, or promise yourself you'll do something for yourself every hour on the hour, or something -- and keep your promise. Eventually, you'll "feel up to it" again; but until then, you just have to do it keep trying. YOU ARE WORTH IT. since you are deciding to not use man-made meds, you will need to give the natural route a bit more time than man-made meds require. So, be patient & persistent. Remember, emotions require energy; right now you don't have the strength to feel much emotion -- maybe not even any emotion. As you get stronger, you'll regain the abillity -- the physical strength -- to feel positive emotions again. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Cathi	Hello friend, If you are feeling that badly, please go see your Doctor. He/she can help or refer you to someone that can help. The first step is up to you. You obviously want help because you have found the strength to write this question, so push yourself a little bit more and seek the professional help that you need and deserve. Doctors and medication are not that bad when things are this severe. Toughen up and help yourself.... you ARE worth it and don't ever forget it! If you feel you can't do it for yourself right now, do it for the family/friends that care about you. You are worth it. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

johninjc	You should talk to Jesus. He loves you and will help you with your depression. He will give you joy unspeakable and full of glory. He has changed many lives and can change yours without drugs or hospitals. I know a lot of people on here will tell you that he is not real but he is. I have been in your shoes before. When my wife died I was depressed and one day I was at her grave with a gun in my hand and he sent to me my brother to the cemetary to let me know that I was loved. I am still here today and am not depressed anymore. He will do the same thing for you. Just talk to him, tell him that you believe in him and need his help. He will come to you and take your burdens from you. He loves you enough to die for you. If you would like to talk get ahold of me and I will do anything I can to help. Pray and seek his face. Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 1Pe 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see [him] not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

sky queen	I had a breakdown from Depression from all kinds of abuse. Family took me to the doctors, where I was put on meds. It was the only thing that brought me out of it. Depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain. Ginko (available at drug stores and Wal-Mart) can help. Suicide is NOT the answer, I know. You can go to a clinic if you are 18, and have none or little income, for free. Maybe an aunt, uncle or other relative can take you. Another tip: always keep 3 reachable goals for yourself. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Ken	You question raises many questions I have to be able to offer some help. Yes you do have classic signs of major depression but one question is...did something happen to cause the depression? You did not give your age and that could play a part in it also. I am a Reg Nurse with decades of experience in mental health but I am also a pastor so I tend to approach things from two views. I would like to talk with you directly to give you more specific advise but I will give a couple of suggestions here: One of the things I have seen that helps bring people out of depression fastest, is to reach out and start helping others. Since you are on Y/A, I would suggest looking for questions such as yours, questions in which it is easily seen that someone else is hurting and then doing the best you can to help ease their pain. It is also important to get outside and get some sunshine and some exercise. Depression often feeds itself because the very things that will ease or stop it are the things a depressed person least wants to do. The next suggestion is from the pastor in me. GOD does not want us to be depressed. You have said that you want to die (this is more a death wish then a statement that you are planning on speeding things up but a death wise is not always a bad thing...Paul had a death wish because he knew he would be with the Lord instantly) Jesus said that satan came to kill and destroy but He (Jesus) came to give us life and to give it to us abundantly. This sure does not sound like depression does it? God said through Isaiah Fear thou not; for I am with thee; be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea I will help thee; yea I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness Isaiah 41:10 Dismayed is depression. The second link below will show you how to make sure that GOD is with you and that He will never leave you or forsake you. Please contact me if I can help further To All of those answering. I do appreciate that almost every answer given to this person asking for help have been honest and sincer answers to help. I thank each of you for doing so. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

midnitepoets	I have chronic deppression personally almost my entire life, cooking helps me, I stopped taking my meds though. but having someone to talk to helps, just find someone out there that will listen, your death would benefit noone, it would hurt the people you love, I got to a point where I could think of only one or two ppl worth living for,I was so close to that final jump so many times, but just find some flicker of light to hold onto. just find something that makes you happy, or atleast eases it a bit, get a blog, sometimes typing out your problems can help, make it private if you dont want anyone reading it, but its better to get it out in the open so you can examine it. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

KU Jayhawk Fan4Life	you need to find some one to talk to. Maybe an old friend or close family member. Or just anyone that can make you feel better Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Half God Half Ape	You can't recover unless you're willing to see a doctor and get some medication. You'll probably have to eat something (don't worry, we all do it) to have enough energy to get to a doctor. You won't recover from anything unless you're willing to take action. Clinical depression is caused by an imbalance of chemicals in the brain. Exercise and a change in attitude can help, but you won't be able to do either of those unless you treat the cause of your depression. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Annie	I will cry with you...... I would hold you if I could..... Do you KNOW there are people out here that care ?? We do !!! Very much !!!!!!! Is there no one you can call to come to you ?? There are Hot Lines for people who just need to talk..... Sometimes talking to a stranger can help put life into perspective and help us see what we don't !!!! My life was like a roller coaster ride till I was 34 years old... I have been through some rough times, then, now I have, not perfect, but wonderful life... and you can too..... Life is never perfect, but there is love, understanding, compassion, you just have to reach out for it !!!!! You do not say if you believe in God ? Not a push , just a question ........ If you feel it in your heart, I am here..... You can go to my profile and e-mail me.... I have spoken to MANY young people over the years on this thing... Just know that I and others do care...... go in peace..... God bless Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Meeeeow	what is your medical problem?....email me your story..I have time on my hands and I want to help you....be strong, keep your chin up!! Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

swimgirl	if you really cant go see a doctor, take meds, then all you can do is wait it out and stay tough. this is life; you cant stay happy forever. what goes up must come down. you are in the trough right now. stay tough, you will come back out. i know what youre going through...believe me. if you were able to get up and type this entire thing to seek for help, YOU CAN HELP YOURSELF. please. stay strong? Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

CCCP Chick	you really need some help and fast, i don't know what to tell you, other than is there something that is bothering you to make you like this, something other than just your depression? Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

*Frau Hunter RT JPA**	first, take a shower. I know, it's simple but it will help. Then eat something, even if it's some crackers and drink some water. Not soda - water. In the morning, get outside in the fresh air (even if it's cold, spend a few minutes out there). I know it seems like a lot but try. Telling you there is hope will sound hollow. Just take it one minute at a time. Get up, take a shower and eat something. Get outside in the morning. After that - try and do something that you enjoyed once, even if it's just for a few minutes. Move, eat, sleep and start reaching out a little. Hang in. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Jesus did this for you	Sleeping too much can actually make you tired. Try for a regular schedule of anywhere from 6-10 hours and see what works for you. I had depression pretty much all my life. I remember one summer I did almost nothing but sleep. I believe this was during a time I so desperately wanted to lose weight that I barely ate. I remember one time waking to go to the bathroom, but when I tried to get up I got so dizzy I just fell back into bed and slept a few more hours. Though you don't want to or can't do much of anything, make it a point to snack on healthy foods all day. Maybe take a B-complex vitamin. Try setting five achievable goals for the day. Even if that list includes stuff like shower, get dressed, brush hair, etc. At some point you will work up to bigger goals. Whatever doesn't get done, move it to the next day. Start setting long-term goals, too (more schooling, marriage, etc.). Below I'm including some sources that might help. Print out the pages and read them lying down if you have to. Make an effort to get up and move around. Wander through the house periodically. If you have stairs walk up them, sit if you have to, then walk down them. At some point you will have enough energy to walk around the block. Work your way up to walking up the street, then around the block, then 10-minute walk, then 3 10-minute walks a day. Try positive self talk and doing activities you enjoy. Stay busy. If you have to sleep, allow yourself a 15-20 minute nap. Invest in you. Meet any needs you have--sleep, eat healthy, move around. Keep your mind busy. Look in the mirror and practice smiling. Use creative outlets: build a model, exercise, dance, any form of art, play a musical instrument, read, daydream, journal, talk aloud to yourself. Will you consider counseling? There are various techniques. You might be able to get cheap or free counseling through your local hospital or health clinic. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No