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Do you think that disabled people should be put down at birth?
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I speak as a person with skin disease. Not only am i in pain all of the time I oftern bleed in public and at night. When this happens I stick to the bed and have to have the sheets soked off. If i had the choice I would have been put down at birth. If I ever have children and they have this I wont let them live a life of pain.
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myoldjeans
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Human Euthanasia is wrong. Think of what the world would be like 10, 20, or even 100 years from now! This sort of thing would be a stepping stone for horrible things that we couldn't even fathom.
I'd bet that back in the 1920's no one would have imagined that, the fight for equality of the sexes would lead to abortion and the feminizing of the western male. Don't get me wrong, a lot of good thing came from equality of the sexes (voting rights, etc...), but also more problems.
We should study our History before we jump into something.
A few quotes to ponder:
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -Spanish philosopher, George Santayana
"What history and experience teach us is this: that people and government never have learned anything from history or acted on principles deduced from it." -German Philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
"The one thing we have learned from history is that we don't learn from history." -paraphrased by the British statesman, Winston Churchill
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JJs world
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disabled people have as much right to life as you their life is equally as precious to them as yours is to you just be gratefull it is not you
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ZachsLadyyy
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No. They are human beings. They deserve to live and grow and experience life like everyone else. Besides, where would they draw the line? Only people who can not function on their own, or as far as people who need glasses?
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chips010
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NO
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Dumb American
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EUGENICS!!
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Mz. Incognita
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I AM WITH 'CHARMED'!
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wee man !
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U should be ashamed of yourself!thi last people who thought like that, wore swastikas on their uniforms,and terrorized europe,1939-45.
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Paul S
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no.everyone has the right to life.i know your in pain but not everybody with disabilities wished they werent born.hopefully they'll find a cure or something to ease youir suffering
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curious girl
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Yes as cruel as it may sound i believe that disabled children should be put down at birth it is cruel to let an abnormal child live for the parents own selfish guilty feelings
the child will never have a proper life and would most probably want to be put down if given the choice
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Foxy
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i think some of these people need to take the time to read your question properly. i do believe in euthanasia but only as an adult who has a clear mind of what they are deciding on. no one should have to live a life of pain and I'm sorry for what you have to go through, but there must be times when you are still grateful to be here? i hope so anyway. and to the person who said you were evil, as long as you are not planning to go round killing anyone with a disability, i think you are just trying to get your point of view across, which you are entitled to do.
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baldyhugsblues
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no one should, that is the talk of the nazis who beleived in breeding the perfect race. what next kill somone if they become disabled
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well if there was a way to know if a child was to have some kind of mental handicap like down syndrome, or cerebral palsy, maybe autistic, through their DNA, just abort before six months, better yet just find a way through gene therapy to just weed out those defects. then pretty soon the population would be cleansed of the genes responsible for those defects. maybe selective breeding would work. idk. oh well.
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JAMES
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No. Even if I have most extrem form of mental illness or whatever illness with painfullness, I want to live.
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ericalevi2006
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no they should not there are alot of disabled people that has grown up and made good things of there selves. my husband was born with double hair lip and cleft pallet and i couldnt even imagine him not being here he is now working and hes a dad and hes got a kind heart.
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*Proud Army Wife*
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OMG, this is a pretty horrible question. NO!! They should not be "put down" at birth. Are you kidding me?? They are not animals, they are human beings!! And many, many disabled people can go on to live productive, happy lives. Anyone who thinks differently is sick.
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old_but_still_a_child
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No. NEVER. People should have the opportunity to live. I feel for you because nobody should have to suffer, but there is no way I would let my kid be killed for not conforming to expectations of "perfection". Surely you get some joy from life, even if you are in pain? Isn't it worth those precious moments?
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fidget
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No. Most people have a disability of some sort. Where would people who believe disabled people should be put down at birth draw the line? For example; would they kill everyone who is fully blind or even those who wear glasses or contact lenses? Would they kill everyone who is born completely unable to hear and all those who require a hearing aid? How would mental disabilities be measured?
Also, would they kill people who become disabled later on in life too due to accidents or illness?
I just read the details that you added.
I'm sorry that you have had it hard but you are literate and you not only have access to a computer but you can also use it. This makes you very fortunate compared to a lot of people. Try to be more positive. I don't think you should have been killed at birth and hopefully one day something amazing will happen to you to make you value life. Chin up and take care.
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butterfly55freedom
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No I do not think they should be put down at birth but I sympathise with you. I did watch a documentary on someone with a skin disease where he had similar problems to yours.He used it positively to raise money to research the problem He met many celebrity`s and I think he did get some pleasure.
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The voice of thinking
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My answer is no.
When i was at school i was friends with a girl who had brittle bones, a growth defect etc, she was told she shouldn't walk.
But she did, she only used her wheelchair when she broke a bone, and the funny thing is she ALWAYS had a smile on her face.
She wasn't any more "dis" abled that anyone else i knew.
She did all the things she wanted, went out, college etc.
Every person who is born should be given the right to live.
Try talking to your Dr about your skin problem, see if there is anything further you can be doing, and talk to him/her about your state of mind, if you are feeling down or your illness seems to be getting to much for you then someone should lend you some support.
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Owlwings
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First define 'disabled'. Can you, for example, tell someone what day of the week they were born on without a pause for thought, draw a picture of a complicated building with complete accuracy having only glimpsed it from a coach window, tell at a glance if one sheep is missing out of 200 in a field. Can you write a best-selling and popular book about the theory of the universe, become a renowned public speaker and activist, found an international institute for preventing blindness ....
If you say 'no' to any one of those achievements, then you can't do something which someone else can do and you are, by definition, in some way disabled.
I rest my case.
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Having read your additional information, I stand by what I said above in response to your bald question. No, as a general rule, nobody has the authority to say that all disabled people should be put down at birth. You have to remember that humans have a need to both give and receive. It is a complicated life we live and sometimes the fact of needing care gives someone else the chance to demonstrate a very special love. I have also known people who, even though they are in constant pain, are yet among the most selfless and beautiful people I have had the honour to meet.
I hope that, with better knowledge of DNA, you may one day have the joy of children who don't suffer as you do.
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sharkgirl
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Wow! That's a cruel thing to say. I'm sure some severley disabled people if they had a choice would choose that path because of their poor quality of life. But generally most disabled people can manage to still have a decent enough life. Some people who are not disabled have a really poor quality of life and would like to end it, so it's really a case of making the most of what you have
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smiley
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of course not - i'm sorry for your circumstances but I have two disabled children and their quality of life is happy, they both have chromosone disorderm epilepsy and autism and I would fight any move to simply write of disabled children. I appreicate that you feel you would rather not have been born and I think that is very sad, however I find it scary that you consider you can speak for, or make a rule for all disabled children
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Jen
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I sympathise with you that you feel this way about your skin condition, but what you consider as an intolerable quality of life may not be considered that way by others with the same condition.
Similarly, some people deal with disabilities much better than others. You couldn't possibly make a sweeping judgement that all disabled people should be put down at birth. For example, children with Down's syndrome are often the happiest children you'll ever come across, and yet they are considered disabled. Yes, there are some people I sometimes look at and wonder whether they have ANY quality of life.........but that's not for me to judge, and I'd certainly never make a decision as to whether a child should live or die based on "disability".
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sharhutton
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at first I was going to yell at you for asking
this...then I saw what you had to say.
I'm sorry that this has happened to you.
but yes they should live. I know this must be hard. but..attitude is 99% of everything.
you should change yours. maybe you can help someone
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annie k
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I feel for you i wish i could give you a great big hug, you are so brave and you can inspire other people, i suffer from athritis etc.and live with pain every day, but when i saw your question i felt humbled , so you have helped me. I know its hard for you but sharing it you may find various solutions to help you,certainly not leaving this world is going to help, you are loved and I will say a little prayer for you. big hugs
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annie06
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no, and i cant believe you had to ask that question.
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Garfield
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No, they are human beings too. Just because they are different than others is no reason why they can't live happy lives. They should be given the same chance as the rest of us.
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markp
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wow. talk about a doozer of a question.
in the end it's one of those very difficult questions. but having this done would probably have robbed the world of two good friends of mine, and possibly, with genetic testing, myself, though i have nothing obvious and physical (but wierdly mental)
do feel for you with your condition, it sounds really horrid; i can only hope that some researcher comes up with a cure for you sometime soon, as has previously happened for other diseases or lifelong conditions that were once a death sentence or a lifelong living hell.
PS have you considered rubber or plastic linings instead of fabric?
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leowin1948
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Many disabilities can be cured.Be positive.If you have tried usual medicine(Allopathy),try alternate medicine.There are effective medicines under Homeopathy,Ayurveda for skin diseases.Try them.If you are in India ,there is a Tibetan Medical Centre at Mumbai,where many( incurable diseases under modern medicine)had been cured.
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crophilia
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i understand where u are coming from and i am very sorry u have to suffer like u do. thats must be awful. i have a painful skin condition on the bottom of my feet and that is bad enough, i dont think i could bare it if it was all over my body. i do feel for u.
i think it depends on how bad the disability is, i mean if the person is going to be a vegetable and not know anything, then yes as wot is the point of spending all that money keeping them in that state and they dont even know anything. im sure i will be attacked for saying that but i wouldnt want to be alive like that or see my nearest and dearest in that state.
if it was an animal, they would straight away put it to sleep as it would be the kindest thing to do, why not for humans too?
its a difficult question as if someone is severely disabled, how do u know wot their quality of life is like? do they even understand wot life is? if they dont, i dont see the point of keeping them going on and on. i may sound cruel but all the money spent on care etc could be used elsewhere to save lives of people who do know and could have quality of life.
i am talking severe cases here but im sure i will be attacked for it none the less. sometimes u have to look at the bigger picture. i think u and i do that.
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brucebirchall
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Well, there's a lot, as a disability activist, active in three trade unions, two tenants associations and the TUC, I could say. But I will limit myself to some major points ...
(1) Only 17% of disabled people are disabled from birth, the rest acquire disabilities in later life. The age at which significant numbers of people start to become disabled is 48,
(2) With increased longevity, the percentage of the population who are disabled is rising and will rise significantly. In 1900, life expectancy for men was 49, for women 51. That generation mostly died before significant numbers of it had a chance to become disabled.
With improvements in medical care, more and more people are now surviving operations and conditions that a generation earlier would have killed them. But they do so as disabled people.
(3) Social policy hasn't got to grips yet with the problem of a higher percentage of elderly people in the population, let alone with a higher percentage of disabled people in the population.
The UK Government proposes to make both sexes work till 67, as a way of dealing with the former problem! What kind of soluton is that?
(4) In ancient Egypt they dealt with the problem by feeding the elderly to the crocodiles. In ancient Greece, disabled new-born babies were left to die on a mountainside. These aren't solutions either.
(5) Should Beethoven have been put down when he went deaf? We wouldn't have his 9th Symphony if he had have been. It didn't prevent him writing it, did it? Similarly, Motor Neurone Disease hasn't prevented Stephen Hawking from making a major contribution to cosmology.
(6) What has limited Hawking, though, is the inadequacy of his care package and support he receives. It forced him into making an undignified self-parody of himself by using his Metal Mickey voice in stupid TV commercials just to earn the money to pay for his Personal Assistants and Nursing support.
Lord Ashley's Independent Living Bill currently going through the House of Lords seeks to ensure disabled people define and get the support they need.
(7) The key issue is WHAT IS DISABILITY? The medical and charity models of disability would have us believe that our impairments are our disability. X is deaf, Y is blind, Z has mobility issues. But to fully understand disability we need to use the Social Model of Disability, which makes clear that what disables us are the barriers we face to full inclusion in society. e,g, the built environment, people's attitudes and assumptions, the policy, practices and procedures of organisations.
(8) Solutions to disabled people not having a full life therefore lie in systematically removing the barriers we face. Remove the barriers, do not remove the person who experiences the barriers! See the person, not the disability!
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