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Health Forum    Injuries

downonlove_98
Would Steve Irwin had lived if he had not pulled the barb out of his chest..?

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Seems like to me he bleed out and that is why he died..If he had left it along until he gotten to the hosptial what would have happened?
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ktray1275
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yup he would have had cardiogenic shock

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Erebus
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Yes, because it was the venom that killed him by causing the death of cardiac cells, hereby killing his heart. Pulling the barb out only makes the would bigger, it does not make the venom come out.

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Brian L
That depends on whether the barb was acting as a plug for the hole in his heart, or if it did so much damage going in (far more likely) that he would have died anyway.

Wait for the coroner's report.

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CaptKert
possibly if his heart was not leaking before he removed the barb but the chances are slim if you have a punctured heart

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Stacey
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no, once the barb filled with poison got him in the heart it was already in his blood stream so it really wouldn't have mattered what he would have done.

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beez
I've wondered the same thing.

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Heather
It's instinct to pull something out of you that jabbed ya. But it probably didn't matter because those barbs are poisonous. I guess we will never know, unfortunately = (

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steve
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no

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Tripwire
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The poison would still have killed him because it would have damaged his heart beyond repair.

I think that wetsuit manufacturers should now start making them with reinforced padding to protect the heart area from puncture wounds. It would add that little bit more safety for divers.

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Trisha
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No he wouldn't of.

The bard pierced his Heart. The Heart cannot survive once it has been pierced deeply. This would of caused his Heart to fail. No chance he would of survived.

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me
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probably not, it went through his heart and it was poisonous

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Maddi
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no... the poison is what killed him.

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gousa1991
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this the 2nd time this question was asked. well he died and i don't think anyone can give u a true answer. he knew what to do and its a posinous barb so no i don't think he would have lived.

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paul l
no

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sambelrob
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HE DIED ON IMPACTED IT KILLED HIM JUST AS SOON AS HE HIT THE STINGRAY SAD BUT TRUE

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greendaychick_luvstrecool
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Sadly, I think he still would have died. The barb in his chest released toxins. He probably would have been poisoned to death.

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mnvikes
nobody here knows enough about it, but yeah youre supposed to leave objects in if you have a puncture wound and let the doctors handle it, because youll bleed a lot more once its out and you can do more damage. but im sure in the heat of the moment your gut instinct is to tear it out. it pierced his heart though, i bet he would have died anyway considering he was many miles away from an emergency room

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Brite Tiger
Possibly. The heart is encased in the pericardia sack and by pulling the barb out this caused the heart to hemorrhage (bleed) into the sack surrounding the heart. When the sack filled with blood the pressure would prevent the heart from beating. However, it's a natural instinct to pull something out of your chest. If stabbed it's better to leave a knife or barb or whatever in place to prevent the bleeding into the pericardia heart sack, thereby causing the heart to stop beating.

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Featherman
I think he knew what exactly what happened to him, and what his chances were...
He knew it was his time, and that is the way he lived...he knew the poison is deadly in that place.
He is happy, and would advise us all to carry on with life , if he could.

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bbclackfire34
It is possible that he would have lived. One of the rules of first aid is to not to pull out any impaled object. If the spike actually hit his heart it is doubtful if he would have survived.

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DaFinger
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not shure yet.
I dont know if the barb was still on the stingray or not.
if he pulled it out to not be conected to the ray?
If he pulled it out and was not conected to the ray I would give him a-25% better chance of living or less.
it did puncture his hart but it would have been sealed but to get to a Dr in time to save him I dont think he had enough time.
better to have a quick death.

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veteranpainter
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As a Viet-Nam veteran I wondered about that very thing. I have seen wounds, similar to this in the respect of being sort of a plug as well as a weapon.It wasn't until I got a better idea of the barb, it's shape, size, how far it penetrated his chest,............all the way through I understand...............even I will have to say, he didn't stand a chance,he would have never left that spot alive, not many would......................................

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Mama
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This Will never be voted as an best answer, but I just have to say, " WHAT A SILLY QUESTION" just think about it.

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kman
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NO,WOULD BLEED INTERNALLY.

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pixles
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Probably not! They said it caused him to have a major heart attack.

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GrnApl
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I doubt it because the venom went directly into his heart

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Munya Says: GFOD
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no, it had already created a hole in his heart, it literally wouldve been his last, dying act.
Like getting shot or stabbed in the heart, almost instantaneous.
Almost.

Now stop bothering about it. The world has lost a great character, but his family has lost a father, a son, a husband, a brother. That is the true sadness.

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Harry
Good question.

The barbs are 'serrated' like an arrow head. They actually do more damage coming out than going in.

However it is likely that the toxin on the barb caused him to go into cardiac arrest so the answer to your question would be that it is highly unlikely that he would have lived had he left the barb in.

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Gaz
He had a penetrating injury to the left front of his chest. He had lost his pulse and wasn't breathing.If you remember He came over the top of the stingray and the barb went up into his chest and put a hole in his heart." Barely conscious so answer is Sadly no he would'nt off made it but may he r.i.p

x Steve irwin x

"we all love u m8"

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NATIVE NEW YORKER
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THE TOXINS FROM THE STINGRAY RIGHT IN HIS HEART MIGHT HAVE KILLED HIM ANYWAY BUT NO ONE CAN REALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH CERTAINTY.

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Fleur de Lis
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No, it wouldn't have mattered.

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