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Health Forum    Alternative Medicine

tbmichals
Which is better for sleep, Ambien, Valium or Phenergan?
the ambien rx was from 08/2004, the valium from 07/04 and the phenergan from 08/06. Don't know if 2 of them are even still good. I just need some sleep tonight without the drowsiness for work tomorrow.
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OliveRuth
thinking that all of them are expired..try a warm bath and some Cocoa or camomile tea

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rrrevils
+I wouldn't want you taking any of the listed meds, for they very well may be out of date. I would rather you take an OTC med, like simply Sleep or Tylenol PM.

You could take the Phen, it being the most recent med, but I wouldn't.

Good luck.

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BroknWing
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What about something natural, like Melatonin?

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aspirit
As a practicing healer of alternative medicine, I wouldn't recommend taking drugs to help you sleep. They don't cure the underlying problem. Thats like putting a bandage with dirt on it over a wound. Its just not a good idea. Find the cause of the sleeplessness. Then find a means to cure it with natural remedies.

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tcmrose l
Try Chinese methods, like herbs, acupuncture, massage

http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/pdf/21082006.pdf

and even baths

http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/treatment/bathing.html

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lindajune
A shame that everyone assumes that only pharmaceutical drugs will help. There are a lot of natural alternatives that have fewer or no side effects. Drugs if taken over time can cause dependency, liver and heart problems, etc.
I don't think its worth the risk.

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Fred A
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Valium and Ambien are both highly addictive and if you try stopping them you can get nasty physical and mental withdrawal symptoms. Phenergan has a very low level of addiction and withdrawal so I would go with Phenergan.

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lirpa
Considering all the medications you have listed are outdated and precription meds, I would try over the counter medication for short-term use until you can get in to see your Doctor to have the prescriptions re-filled or changed. Some OTC meds are sleep-eze, Sominex, nytol, or unison all have antihistamine which is what causes the drowsiness also medications taken for allergies have the antihistamine in them. Only short -term and only if you are not taking any other medications. If you are on other medications you can always ask the pharmacist for contraindications. Try other insomnia solutions: enhance your sleeping enviroment with soft music, line-dried fresh sheets for aroma, darken the room as much as possible, ear plugs if you need complete silence, try herbal teas before bedtime, avoid caeffine, some say a hot water bottle for comfort. Exhaust the other avenues before having to rely on medications.

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kachine
I too have suffered with this, try going to macarthurparknaturalmedicine.com they have certified custom made supplements, and skin care products. They have helped many people with many problems. And are all natural. I love their products !!!!

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J D
There are plenty of alternatives to Rx's such as Calms Forte. counter to another post...when an rx expires, tehy do go bad and can have side effects. The expiration date is based on chemical composition. With time they degrade and change. The Phenegran is probably th only good one you have but there is no guarentte you will not have drowsiness as it has a metablising time of 12-16 hours and can stay with you for 24.

Try an alternative or even an OTC.....your better off

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smeagol_jr
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drugs don't really "go bad" after the expiration date, they just lose potency from sitting on the shelf, so the "5 mg" or whatever, is probably something like 4.2 mg. don''t sweat it. Phenergan is for coughs, Valium will give you a "hangover" - take the Ambien. you'll be fine.

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